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When can we see full Moon in daylight?

Full Moon and Sun visibility

Pic. 8 The visibility of Full Moon and Sun when Moon is close to its orbit nodes. In this case just atmospheric refraction causes the visibility of these 2 bodies simultaneously. The view typical for summer solstice at the edge of north circumpolar zone.

At the beginning of this article, I would like to recall one of the questions, which appears from time to time on the Geography Olympiad. The query sounds like this: “If at 9pm we have a Full Moon in London, what Moon phase can be observed in Pekin?” or something like this. The question, in fact, seems to be very easy at first glance. The first answer which would come to our mind would state, that since we have the full Moon in London already, due to parallax against Earth we should experience waxing gibbous in Pekin with something like 99,9% of illumination. The second understanding would lead us to a conclusion, that in both areas we can see the Full Moon because the Moon looks fully illuminated for a whole day therefore is considered the Full Moon from the point of view of the casual observer. To be honest both approaches have some bit of sense, although they aren’t right enough. That’s why in reality the question above it’s a quite tricky one, although hardly anyone is aware of it. Where the problem lies then?
Let’s consider the common understanding of the Full Moon occurrence. Both parallax takes place and the Moon looks full for a while, but they don’t mean the correctness of the answer. The Full Moon phase is related directly to the alignment between the Earth and the Sun. That’s why the phase of the Full Moon is just a moment. In the previous article, I’ve explained what is the syzygy and brought you some information about the most perfect alignment possible. Now I would like to consider this alignment outside of the Earth’s shadow.
Because the Full Moon is just a brief moment, which applies to the Sun-Earth-Moon system, the answer to the question above is really simple. In both London and Pekin, we have the Full Moon occurrence. Another thing is the lunar parallax against the given location on the Earth. I will explain it more in further texts. For now, just worth to mention, that the moment of Full Moon doesn’t need to mean the 100% visibility of the Moon.
The second question could be about the visibility of the Full Moon during the day in general. Most the sources simplify the situation by explaining, that the Full Moon cannot be seen in the daytime, because it’s located on the opposite side of the Sun. Therefore it must rise at sunset and set at sunrise. In turn “we can’t see a Full Moon in the daytime” some sources say. My answer is different, because I know, that both Sun and Full Moon can be visible in the daytime!

The third question, finally related to the one set in the title of this text, namely when can we see the Full Moon in daylight, and what conditions must be met?
The answer is twofold because we have the atmospheric refraction, which influences the visibility of the Moon as roughly explained in the previous article.
Apart from the atmospheric refraction, there is another factor, which much more determines the appearance (or not) of the Full Moon along with the shining Sun on the other side of the sky. This is the inclination of the lunar orbit, which the mean value is about 5º08′ as discussed in one of the previous articles. In fact, we do not observe this size of inclination quite often, but in most cases, the lunar orbit is tilted against the Earth’s one. The exceptions are just eclipse seasons, where the Moon is aligned pretty much exactly with Earth and Sun. The lack of eclipse means, that the Moon, Earth, and the Sun are not in a straight line every day when the Full Moon occurs (Duggal, Burrett, 2010). Indeed, during this time the Moon can be above or below the plane of the Earth’s orbit. It surely results in its higher or lower position against the ecliptic. If this is so, the total time, in which the Full Moon can be observed above the horizon will vary from total daytime (from sunrise to sunset). And it does happen! Even if people are not really aware of it. Basically, since the Full Moon and the Sun can be visible both above the horizon, there are also situations, when these both bodies are under the horizon. It’s driven exactly by the same factor – the lunar orbit inclination. In fact, the number of moments, in which both Sun and Full Moon are below the horizon is reduced by atmospheric refraction, which gives an additional 35′ of visibility beyond the astronomical horizon from a certain location. Let’s see the example below (Pic. 1), where we can experience both Full Moon and the Sun above the horizon as well as below the horizon.

Visibility of Full Moon and Sun above the horizon Stellarium web

Pic. 1 The visibility of the Full Moon and the Sun simultaneously above the horizon or below the horizon at various locations adequate to the moment of the Full Moon observed in March, June, September, and December 2022 (Stellarium-web.org).

At current circumstances of lunar orbit inclination, we can experience the Full Moon and Sun visibility in December and March, whereas in June and September both bodies are under the horizon at the moment of Full Moon occurrence (applies for current year – 2022). Why does it look like this? The answer is based on the position of the ecliptic, which varies across the year. Near the summer solstice, the ecliptic is 23°27′ above the celestial horizon, on the contrary, a half year later its position is roughly 23°27′ beneath the celestial horizon (from the northern hemisphere perspective). When we watching the full Moon in December, when the Sun travels across the lowest position of the ecliptic, the Moon is on the opposite side, where the ecliptic runs the highest. On the other hand, the moment of vernal or autumnal equinox is the best for checking the lunar orbit inclination against the eclipse season. The fact, that in 2022 Full Moon is observed along with the Sun in March is driven by the position of the lunar orbit nodes, which cross the ecliptic on May 16 and November 8. Obviously, we are sticking to the Full Moon only! It’s clearly understandable, that Moon by revolving the Earth and changing its phases keeps adjusting its inclination against the ecliptic every day.
The visibility of the Full Moon in March 2022 (and even in April) at sunrise means, that Moon is located in the northern ecliptic hemisphere, although its ecliptic latitude keeps reducing. On May 16th we had the total lunar eclipse, which occurred at descending node. It was the moment when the Full Moon crossed the ecliptic to the other side and will remain in the southern ecliptic hemisphere until November 8. That’s why in September we might experience Full Moonset far before the sunrise and see neither Sun nor Full Moon visible for a while.

On the other hand, when we take into account i.e. 2013, when the lunar eclipse occurred on April 25th at the lunar ascending node, the situation was opposite then. An observer was able to see the Full Moon at sunrise or sunset in September, but not in March 2013, when the Moon was in the southern ecliptic hemisphere. For a better understanding of how it works, see the images below (Pic. 2 – 3).

Position of Full Moon in 2022-2023 against ecliptic Heavens-above

Full Moon vs Sun 2022-2023

Pic. 2, 3 The position of Full Moon against the Sun in 2022-2023, where: 2 -the position of the Moon against the ecliptic in 2022 (Heavens-above.com); 3 – positionof the Full Moon against the Sun based on the lunar orbit inclination in the period of III 2022 – III 2023. Click to enlarge.

Concluding, We must remember an important thing, which is the nodal precession of lunar orbit. This kind of precession determines the moments, when the maximum inclination of lunar orbit falls against the position of the ecliptic and when the eclipse seasons occur. Nodal precession determines the movement of the eclipse season across the ecliptic. Next, the eclipse season indicates when minor and major lunar standstill phenomena take place. These occurrences have been already discussed here and here. A major lunar standstill is otherwordly the correct position of lunar orbit nodes against the vernal equinox, which means, that the final equatorial latitude of the Moon is enlarged by its orbit inclination. A minor lunar standstill is an opposite event, which means, that the equatorial latitude of the Moon is suppressed and its value of orbit inclination reduces the absolute declination of the Moon.
If you still haven’t understood it until this point, I will provide you an example of wave interference. The nodal precession of the lunar orbit creates something like wave interference, where both ecliptic and Moon’s orbit inclination combine each other. In the case of a major lunar standstill, we have a classical example of constructive interference, which results in greater amplitude (in our case greater absolute declination of the Moon). On the other hand, the minor lunar standstill is an example of destructive interference, where both ecliptic declination and inclination of lunar orbit reduce each other. This situation occurs when both maximum declination of the ecliptic and maximum ecliptic declination of lunar orbit inclination is 180º out of phase. Let’s see the depiction of our discussion below (Pic. 2).

Lunar standstill nodes explained

Pic. 4 The lunar standstill nodes graphical explanation (Star-www.st-and.ac.uk/). The left image shows constructive interference between the ecliptic and lunar orbit inclination, whereas the image on the right displays the opposite situation.

Now let’s consider how it works across the year. It’s shown nicely in the images below (Pic. 5 – 7) which present the lunar position against the Sun across the whole year under major and minor lunar standstill conditions. Only the northern hemisphere is considered here, although for the southern hemisphere you just need to treat these graphs an upside down.

Full Moon major lunar standstill 2025 Heavens-above.com

Full Moon vs Sun Major lunar standstill 2025

Pic. 5, 6 The position of Full Moon against the sun during forthcoming major lunar standstill in 2025, where: 5 – position of the Moon against the ecliptic between XII 2024 and I 2026 (Heavens-above.com); 6 – the position of Full Moon against the Sun between III 2025 and III 2026 based on the lunar orbit inclination. Click to enlarge.

Full Moon vs Sun Minor lunar standstill 2015-2016

Pic. 7 The position of Full Moon against the ecliptic and Sun during past minor lunar standstill in 2015-2016 based on the lunar orbit inclination. Click to enlarge.

For sake of clarification, we can see how it works. When in March, Sun crosses the ecliptic at the vernal equinox, the Full Moon occurring at this moment will do the same in opposite direction at the other side. When we have the major or minor lunar standstill the situation will be the same, because the vernal and autunmal equinox coincides with the eclipse seasons. In the case, when we are somewhere between the major and minor lunar standstill, both vernal and autumnal equinox won’t mark the ecliptic crossing by the Moon. It will be determined by the “position” of the eclipse seasons marked by the placement of lunar nodes. The types of lunar nodes will determine on which ecliptic hemisphere an observer should expect the Full Moon at vernal or autumnal equinox. Moreover, depending on the “distance” to the major or minor lunar standstill the ecliptic latidude of the Moon can vary from – 5,1º to + 5,1º. It does happen, when eclipse seasons occur near solstices and the extremal llunar declination sort of overlaps the extremal solar declination. Returning to the beginning of my explanation, when at vernal equinox the ecliptic latidude of the Full Moon is about + 5,1º (between minor and major lunar standstill), the  ecliptic won’t be crossed yet, because our natural satellite still has thet 5,1º to the ecliptic plane, therefore it should be visible along with the Sun in favorable conditions (sunrise/sunset). Conversely, it won’t happen in September, when the Sun goes beneath the celestial equator, because the ecliptic on the opposite side is upside down. Moon will be placed 5,1º beneath the ecliptic accordingly. It’s expressed perfectly in the images above (Pic. 1, 6, 7). When the lunar ascending node is between vernal and autumnal equinox (between najor and minor lunar staandstill), the confuguration will be opposite.

Finally, we are approaching the overall configurations typical for high latitudes, where in some parts of the year an observer is able to see the midnight Sun, circumpolar Full Moon, or unable to see neither Moon nor Sun. The range of visibility of these 2 celestial bodies at solstices is presented on the map below (Pic. 8).

Full Moon & Sun visibility worldwide

Pic. 8. The range of visibility of the Full Moon and Sun at winter and summer solstices during minor and major lunar standstill, where: yellow line – midnight sun or winter noon; blue lines – major lunar standstill; green lines – minor lunar standstill; dark lines – limir of visibility; light lines – circumpolar Moon. In all cases atmospheric refraction included.

Below you can see the visibility configurations typical for specific situation (Pic. 9 – 14).

Full Moon and Sun visibility

Full Moon and Sun visibility 2

Pic. 9, 10 The visibility of Full Moon and Sun when the Moon is close to its orbit nodes. In this case, just atmospheric refraction causes the visibility of these 2 bodies simultaneously. The view is typical for the summer solstice (upper image) and winter solstice (lower image) at the edge of the north circumpolar zone.

In the circumstances shown above (Pic. 9,10) the situation is straightforward, because we have just mainly the influence of atmospheric refraction, which lifts up 2 bodies by 35′ above the astronomical horizon. Therefore both Full Moon and Sun can be observed simultaneously. In practice, alignment such as this happens closely to the eclipse season.
When we have the major lunar standstill, the following patterns come into effort (Pic. 11, 12).

Full Moon and Sun visibility major lunar standstill

Full Moon and Sun visibility major lunar standstill2

Pic. 11, 12 The visibility conditions of the Full Moon and the Sun during major lunar standstill in the winter solstice (upper image) and summer solstice (lower image).

During the major lunar standstill, an observer located i.e. somewhere in central Scandinavia can see the Sun at noon and the Full Moon still above the northern horizon. This is because of the positive lunar orbit inclination against the ecliptic. Because the December’s Full Moon position represents the June’s position of the Sun + the positive inclination of the lunar orbit, our natural satellite remains visible all the time until its declination starts to decrease. In June, when an observer can experience a very bright night with solar depression lower than 5 degrees, the Full Moon cannot be observed. This is because the Full Moon’s position in June corresponds to Sun’s position in December. When we increase December’s solar declination by the positive inclination of the lunar orbit, the Full Moon will pass the local meridian about 5,1º lower than the Sun does normally. Hence it will be invisible to an observer upon an increment of its declination.
The last considered configuration applies to the minor lunar standstill (Pic. 13, 14).

Full Moon and Sun visibility minor lunar standstill

Full Moon and Sun visibility minor lunar standstill2

Pic. 13, 14 The visibility conditions of the Full Moon and the Sun during minor lunar standstill in the summer solstice (upper image) and winter solstice (lower image).

The minor lunar standstill period shows the mirror image of the major lunar standstill. By summer solstice, when the midnight Sun is observed inside of the north circumpolar region, an observer can still see the Full Moon unless the observation point is located further north than 5,1º from the edge of the circumpolar zone.  Because the minor lunar standstill is a pure contradiction of the major lunar standstill, we have the situation, where the inclination of the lunar orbit is subtracted from the ecliptic declination. Therefore Moon never passes the local meridian lower than -23º27′ + 5º08′ in December. This reflection is perfectly expressed in June, when the Full Moon’s culmination occurs 5º08′ higher than the solar one. At the winter solstice, the same location doesn’t provide the Sun and Full Moon visibility at all. The Sun passes the local meridian too low to be visible above the horizon. The Full Moon’s declination is not enough to make it visible for the entire day, tough our natural satellite goes under the horizon for a while.
Let’s check it on some live examples provided by the Stellarium Web software (Pic. 15, 16). They apply to major and minor lunar standstills and show some geometrical approximations for our discussions above.

Full Moon and Sun, major lunar standstill Trondheim

Pic. 15 The visibility of the Full Moon in the daytime during major lunar standstill circumstances. Observation venue – Trondheim 63° 26′ 48.5772” N (Stellarium-web.org).

Full Moon and Sun, minor lunar standstill Tromso

Pic. 16 The visibility of the Full Moon in the daytime during minor lunar standstill circumstances. Observation venue – Tromso 69°40′58″N (Stellarium-web.org).

Concluding, the Full Moon is visible in the daytime much more often, than you think! We could even say, that a situation such as this happens every lunation somewhere on the Earth. When an observer is unable to see the Full Moon in a daytime at the given moment, the other observer located in a different hemisphere can do it! In fact, we have considered only geometrical conditions. The atmospheric refraction helps either, but nothing can be competitive with unfavorable topography, which thread was discussed quite recently. Being placed in a rugged area, we often cannot see the Sun and Moon above the horizon, because the apparent horizon is usually higher than the astronomical one.

Mariusz Krukar

 

References:

  1. Duggal G., Burret P, 2010, Longman Geography ICSE 9, Dorling Kindersley, New Delhi.

 

Links:

  1. http://www.geoolympiad.org/
  2. https://earthsky.org/moon-phases/full-moon/
  3. https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/moon/full-moon-daytime.html
  4. https://www.fullmoon.info/en/blog/full-moon-daytime.html
  5. https://www.farmersalmanac.com/a-daytime-full-moon-17493
  6. https://earthsky.org/tonight/see-the-daytime-moon/
  7. https://hizen.from-va.com/can-we-see-full-moon-and-sun-together
  8. Rmg.co.uk: Full Moon calendar 2022
  9. https://www.heavens-above.com/moon.aspx

 

Forums:

  1. https://www.quora.com/How-can-we-see-a-full-moon-during-the-day-while-the-sun-is-still-in-the-sky
  2. https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/ever-seen-a-full-moon-in-the-daytime.47754/

 

Wiki:

  1. Eclipse_season
  2. Full_moon
  3. Orbit_of_the_Moon
  4. Wave_interference
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